Volvo S40 Supertouring And Silverstone Classic Available FREE In RaceRoom

roddy89 · Thursday at 12:52

For 2 weeks. These guys are clowns, foot the bill and make that car and track free for all users permanently. It's a good sim, but it's dead. This is not the play to build a player base.

Sell the DTM licence.

BruceCheE · Thursday at 13:43

they recycle **** from Race07 for years now ....

i posted this in the oficial steam forums and been banned for this since it came out. Too much truth for them...

JDTF · Thursday at 14:11

I mean, as a "free to play" game with so weak (but yet +100gb size) content, i'm already on the edge of uninstalling it. And then they do this "It's free! Yay! -but for a week-" things and it annoys me more. Just make an ultimate edition or something that contains all cars and tracks, and then i might buy it for offline hotlapping... Btw, there's one more sim -cough, rf2, cough- bothers me for similar reasons, but...

Kingkoenig · Thursday at 17:28

roddy89 said:
For 2 weeks. These guys are clowns, foot the bill and make that car and track free for all users permanently. It's a good sim, but it's dead. This is not the play to build a player base.

I guess you don't expect to be paid for your work.

JoeSchmoe · Thursday at 17:33

I used to like this game years ago, but there was not really any content. Moves like this "play it for 2 weeks then its gone" antics isn't going to win anyone over......... (could have been a good game.........)

Peter Kerényi · Thursday at 18:08

Kingkoenig said:
I guess you don't expect to be paid for your work.

That's one way to look at it. Another way would be gaining market share in a competitive field requires sacrifices, especially when one's product is considered to be mostly outdated.

dwaltz · Thursday at 19:46

JDTF said:
Just make an ultimate edition or something that contains all cars and tracks, and then i might buy it for offline hotlapping...

https://game.raceroom.com/store/pack/premium-pack

Kingkoenig · Thursday at 20:51

Peter Kerényi said:
That's one way to look at it. Another way would be gaining market share in a competitive field requires sacrifices, especially when one's product is considered to be mostly outdated.

A way to do that is to offer the product for free for a while. If people really like it, they can buy it. A bit like those streaming services that offer a free month.

Anyway, it is an outdated sim in many ways, I agree with you, but I still launch it from time to time for the content, which is often unique in the sim racing world.

Kingkoenig · Thursday at 20:52

JoeSchmoe said:
I used to like this game years ago, but there was not really any content.

There's tons of content, on the contrary. It includes tracks and cars that can't be found anywhere else.

Large Style · Thursday at 20:58

Just for some positivity, I thank the Raceroom devs for offering paid content for free for a while. I already have those cars but not the track yet so I'll be sure to check it out when I can.

I don't have much experience with the ST cars but I spent a good while with the Classic Touring category in Raceroom yesterday, specifically in the BMW M3 & 635 around Imola, and that was such a great experience. All the other sims feel like good or great sims, but Raceroom feels like you're racing a real car (at times) with physics that feel very natural.

Definitely worth a look / revisit in my opinion.

Kingkoenig · Friday at 00:35

Large Style said:
Just for some positivity, I thank the Raceroom devs for offering paid content for free for a while. I already have those cars but not the track yet so I'll be sure to check it out when I can.

I don't have much experience with the ST cars but I spent a good while with the Classic Touring category in Raceroom yesterday, specifically in the BMW M3 & 635 around Imola, and that was such a great experience. All the other sims feel like good or great sims, but Raceroom feels like you're racing a real car (at times) with physics that feel very natural.

Definitely worth a look / revisit in my opinion.

I agree 100%. I don’t own the ST cars, I was waiting for a sale. In fact, that’s the problem with RRRE: because the sim feels outdated compared to others, I am less inclined to pay full price for new content and I wait for sales. If the game was more up to date, I’d probably be more willing to pay full price. But I agree with you that the racing experience is great.

AndyC709292 · Friday at 03:26

Large Style said:
Just for some positivity, I thank the Raceroom devs for offering paid content for free for a while. I already have those cars but not the track yet so I'll be sure to check it out when I can.

I don't have much experience with the ST cars but I spent a good while with the Classic Touring category in Raceroom yesterday, specifically in the BMW M3 & 635 around Imola, and that was such a great experience. All the other sims feel like good or great sims, but Raceroom feels like you're racing a real car (at times) with physics that feel very natural.

Definitely worth a look / revisit in my opinion.

Controversial I think, but I agree.

I thoroughly enjoy RRRE, but then I also enjoy most other sims/games for that matter.

What I don't enjoy is the first few laps when I switch (to any game) and have to re-learn the nuances of that game, be it physics, UI, graphics or whatever. After that, I'm aligned and off we go for great racing.

I've had excellent races in RRRE, the Group A class at Bathurst for example is excellent. Would I use the game for GT3? Probably not, there are better instances of that.

The advice I'd give to those on the fence is buy one car & skin in the class you want and save - it's discounted later if you buy more cars in that class.

imurgodau · Friday at 08:15

I bought the full content package with this sim just as they broke the VR seemingly forever.

Waste of money.

Large Style · Friday at 10:43

AndyC709292 said:
Controversial I think, but I agree.

I get your point that for some cars other titles may have the edge in some regards (they might have more conventional handling or more detailed FFB) but it's the natural physics in Raceroom the keeps me coming back.

Take my stint at Imola in the Touring Classics for example - not locking the brakes into turn 1 was an extremely delicate balancing act, one where I was at best able to really dial in muscle memory and brake hard & effectively with no tyre squeal, but sometimes I was fractionally over the limit and had to cadence brake while trying to keep my cool with tyres squealing and it was recoverable if managed well. If I mashed the brake too hard from the start there'd be a massive lock-up and the car would going into a sharp squirm to one side and I'd have to force gathering it back up, which albeit not ideal driving, felt great. To me, other games just lock up or not with no real variance and lacking nuance and just straight-lining instead of reacting as the tyres realistically would, therefore there's little to nothing in terms of gathering it up as the car hadn't reacted correctly in the first place.

I was also really playing with the physics coming out of turn 3 (left going onto small straight) as if it's done well you can clip the left kerb on the apex and deliberately cause some relatively high speed rotation, but if you don't do it exactly right then you glance over the kerb and have to balance understeer instead.

Basically every corner I approach, in the back of my mind I'm thinking "how's this going to go this time" and I need to be on point with my reflexes to adapt on the spot and get the most out of each corner.

That's what I love about Raceroom, you approach any part of the track slightly differently and due to its physics you will get a different response from the car which requires the driver to be highly reactive at all times. To me, in comparison, other games feel almost on-rails, predictable, and therefore somewhat unengaging.

Not long back I did a direct comparison with Raceroom and AC using the track Bilster Berg because of all the bumps and elevation changes, and AC felt so bland and uneventful whereas in Raceroom I was really having to fight for control of the car and it was such a hoot.

I'm not saying that other titles get it wrong or are just worse, and I do race on those occasionally, and Raceroom does have some cars that frankly aren't that great, but with the right car & track combination Raceroom has that extra magic sauce in its natural handling and 100% physics-driven FFB that makes driving and racing taste uniquely better for me, and truly delivers on being a racing simulator.

ArchTheSecond · Friday at 12:16

Large Style said:
100% physics-driven FFB

An overstatement if there ever was one. It's as physics-based and physics-guided as any other sim out there, in many regards less dynamic with more missing factors AFAIK.

Large Style · Friday at 14:17

ArchTheSecond said:
An overstatement if there ever was one. It's as physics-based and physics-guided as any other sim out there, in many regards less dynamic with more missing factors AFAIK.

Here's an AI summary on the matter..

RaceRoom claims to be a 100% physics-driven force feedback simulator. This means that the force feedback you feel on your steering wheel is directly calculated from the car's physics model, providing a more realistic and immersive driving experience. In other words, the game simulates the forces you would feel in a real car, like tire grip, vibrations, and engine feedback, without relying on "flavor enhancers" or canned effects.

My (over)statement was made due to the following...

AC has a typical overkill amount of FFB options within Content Manager allowing for many flavours.
ACC has much fewer options but the FFB can still be flavoured a little with what's there.
AMS2 has multiple choices of flavour of quite differing tastes.
F1 '24 can also have manipulated FFB.
rF2 is almost raw FFB.
Raceroom (aside from hardware setup) has just one FFB system and flavour.

Of course they're all physics-driven, but being entirely physics-based is significantly different (and in my opinion better). Plus they all have their own take on how physics are applied, with some obviously doing it a noticeably better than others.

To me, (most) cars just feel alive in Raceroom due to their completely raw approach and that achievement is one I recognise and appreciate. The other titles can be great fun but for whatever reason(s) just don't feel as alive & real.

Just my opinion.

Gztze · Friday at 15:42

I guess it's free for all of you to check that, like it seems it will be the future of simulation, the car is completely dumbed down to shift gears with paddles.

Trebor901 · Friday at 15:58

Gztze said:
I guess it's free for all of you to check that, like it seems it will be the future of simulation, the car is completely dumbed down to shift gears with paddles.

What do you mean dumbed down? the real car had sequential shift it even had auto blip with no need for heel and toe on downshifts in the final season it ran in BTCC thats howcome these cars cost so much to build and develop in the 90s. In 99/2000 Vauxhall had a budget of £4.5 million per car to build and develop across the season.

Richard Wilks · Friday at 16:39

Simracers: "RRE should be basically free now, because its old, and i am entitled to it somehow."

Also simracers: "Please shut up and take my money random AC "modders" that rip 20 year old models and sell them for a small fortune online."

ArchTheSecond · Friday at 16:50

Large Style said:
Here's an AI summary on the matter..

Volvo S40 Supertouring And Silverstone Classic Available FREE In RaceRoom

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